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Colleen Dick's avatar

This is your project. I have reported my lived experience. It is your job to present the evidence and you always do so from the mainstream media point of view. If that really satisfies you, knock yourself out. The question that you asked was to find out how woke people might understand the "unwoke" better. I've tried to answer that, but you seem only to want to argue the points. I'm not really interested in doing that, I have a regenerative village to build.

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The word "woke" began in the Black community prior to the civil rights movement of the 1960s and 70s. It was a code word for people who recognized the unequal treatment of the black community. During this time period, most Americans would not have known the word at all. Many of us worked very hard to remove any and all road blocks to equal treatment under the law. Many institutions offered preferred opportunities to previously oppressed groups. We were quite united as a country to give all individuals equal opportunities. Now the word "woke" is associated with identity politics, intersectionality and critical race theory. These are academic studies that have come from some of the European 19th and 20th century philosophers, some of them the same as those who gave rise to the socialist and communist theories of that period. Do we care about what happened in the Gulags, the Bolshevik Revolution and the Chinese Cultural Revolution? I do. So, now we have a resurgence of similar tactics where everything is about power. People are once again judged on the basis of their color and ethnicity. People are either privileged or victims. In this scenario the individual is non-existent. For the "unwoke" who take personal responsibility for caring for their neighbors (all of them) to say "let the government take care of it," is callous and cold. Christian Hospital systems used to take care of many thousands of charity cases free of charge. Now, most of them have been sold because they refused to be party to the killing of babies. So, now the hospitals are funded by complicated government systems that is costing all of the tax-payers so much that it threatens to bankrupt us, and the quality of care and concern is now lagging. On average Republicans contribute more to charitable and philanthropic efforts than Democrats. (See: https://apply.surveymonkey.com/resources/partisanship-influence-charitable-giving/)

The politicians in traditionally Blue States talk compassion but deliver confusion, violent cities and corrupt policies leading to poverty. Red states tend to have balanced budgets and many individuals who volunteer to help those in need. Currently, I'm living in a Red State and it is one of the most prosperous per capita. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country. We have many volunteer organizations that bring people off of the streets and help them get a leg up. So, my suggestions are well founded.

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Rick (equity muse) Botelho's avatar

And more references.

[5] "May 11, 2022 · Our conclusion was stark: The difference between blue states, where most elites live, and red states, where rural working class Americans makes their homes, is a tale of two economies."

URL: https://www.newsweek.com/how-blue-states-came-represent-inequality-red-states-middle-class-opinion-1703951

[6] "Jan 4, 2015 · Red state economies based on energy extraction, agriculture and suburban sprawl may have lower wages, higher poverty rates and lower levels of education on average than those of blue states ..."

URL: https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/01/04/solved-why-poor-states-are-red-and-rich-states-are-blue/

[7] "Aug 2, 2020 · In comparing the quality of life between Red vs Blue states, I’ll be grouping all 23 indicators into 4 main categories: 4 Crimes Indicators, 4 Social Indicators, 7 Health Indicators. 8 Economic Indicators. Plus the Research Methodology. And the Summary of All 23 Indicators."

URL: https://appliedsentience.com/2020/08/02/summary-of-23-quality-of-life-indicators-are-red-or-blue-states-better/

[8] "Jan 7, 2020 · Here, too, there’s a big divide between red and blue states: In blue-state major cities, the homeless population rose since 2011 while, in red states, major city homeless numbers dropped steadily."

URL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/07/difference-between-red-state-blue-state-homelessness/

Current date: 5/21/2023

Instructions: Using the provided web search results, write a comprehensive reply to the given query. Make sure to cite results using [[number](URL)] notation after the reference. If the provided search results refer to multiple subjects with the same name, write separate answers for each subject.

Query: How do the poverty rates compare between blue and red states?

[1] "Sep 5, 2019 · As a result, state variations in terms of poverty rates and poverty relief will deepen. In short, a person’s experience at the bottom of the economic ladder differs widely depending on where they live, and red state versus blue state policy differences are driving part of that geographic divergence."

URL: https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/holes-in-the-safety-net/difference-in-being-poor-in-red-states-versus-blue-states/FD63AB1051F7A904E5E0CA874B632FE9

[2] "Feb 21, 2020 · Three metrics flip from having stronger average performance among Republican-controlled states at the beginning of the timeframe to having stronger average performance among Democratic-controlled states by the end of the timeframe – Poverty Rate, No High School Diploma Rate, and Post-Secondary Education Rate (Bachelor’s Degree +)."

URL: https://gppreview.com/2020/02/21/growing-divide-red-states-vs-blue-states/

[3] "Apr 1, 2020 · A person’s experience at the bottom of the economic ladder differs widely depending on where they live, and red state versus blue state policy differences are driving part of that geographic divergence. Red states generally have more punitive public benefits policies than blue states."

URL: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3551489

[4] "In this oft touted economic metric, Democrats do vastly better than Republicans in 2019, winning each category and almost all with major wins. The purpose of this study isn’t to get into causal pathways, but I’ll nonetheless be sharing my own personal ideas on such and speculate on patterns. Feel free to do the same in the comments! The first thing... See full list on appliedsentience.com Again, as with almost all of the economic indicators, Blue states have an absolutely decisive victory over Red states in 2018 – with major wins in all 5 metrics! I should have added a “devastatingly better” title for indicators. First, I’d like to point out that, again, it looks like oil is responsible for the Red state outliers who’re above the US... See full list on appliedsentience.com Democrats definitely won this indicator, carrying 3 of 5 metrics, including the only major win, over Republicans in 2019. And while the liberal in me is content with the results, the researcher in me wishes the quality of the data and some technical aspects of its analysis were better. First, some points about analysis. Namely, there isn’t much dif... See full list on appliedsentience.com Like Median Income above, Democrats won another “crushing” victory over Republicans in 2018 since all five metrics were major wins. Once again, my Red Oil Theory holds. All of the leading Red states, except for Nebraska, are top 10 oil producers. In addition, it seems that welfare is doing the job predicted by Democrats and staving off poverty. Des... See full list on appliedsentience.com Similar to percent of all people in poverty above, Democrats have almost all majors wins across all 5 metrics compared to Republicans for 2018. Thank you Jesus (it appears) that the oil rich Red states of Utah and North Dakota have used their money to bail children out of poverty. However, Blue states, again, completely dominate this indicator. Thi... See full list on appliedsentience.com Like Unemployment, Democrats only do a bit better than Republicans on this metric in 2017. Republicans have a win and a tie, but Democrats still pull three wins, two of them major. I’d like to start by making it clear why education is included under economics: human capital theory. Some conservatives complain about education as if it’s part of some... See full list on appliedsentience.com With % of the population graduating college we’re back to a crystal clear win for Democrats over Republicans in 2017. First, this win is all the more stark when additional “hues” are taken into account. The bottom five Blue states are all (.5) states and Maine is the only “true blue” Democrat state, ie (1), to fall under the US average. Second, a l... See full list on appliedsentience.com Here we finally have a solid win for Republicans over Democrats in 2019, taking all 5 metric including two major wins! First, this win is even more impressive if you account for more nuance political affiliation since 60% of the top 5 Blue States are (.5)’s and there’s only one Red state below the US average. Additionally, only one Red state is bel... See full list on appliedsentience.com I’ve already spoken about quite a few different topics. But to recap and add a bit: Blue states clearly do better than Red states on Economic Indicators, except for homelessness. And to bolster this point, it appears like there’s decent evidence that most Red outliers that are doing well, economically-speaking, are doing well because of oil. Whethe... See full list on appliedsentience.com"

URL: https://appliedsentience.com/2020/07/30/economics-are-red-or-blue-states-better/

[5] "May 11, 2022 · Our conclusion was stark: The difference between blue states, where most elites live, and red states, where rural working class Americans makes their homes, is a tale of two economies."

URL: https://www.newsweek.com/how-blue-states-came-represent-inequality-red-states-middle-class-opinion-1703951

[6] "Jan 4, 2015 · Red state economies based on energy extraction, agriculture and suburban sprawl may have lower wages, higher poverty rates and lower levels of education on average than those of blue states ..."

URL: https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/01/04/solved-why-poor-states-are-red-and-rich-states-are-blue/

[7] "Aug 2, 2020 · In comparing the quality of life between Red vs Blue states, I’ll be grouping all 23 indicators into 4 main categories: 4 Crimes Indicators, 4 Social Indicators, 7 Health Indicators. 8 Economic Indicators. Plus the Research Methodology. And the Summary of All 23 Indicators."

URL: https://appliedsentience.com/2020/08/02/summary-of-23-quality-of-life-indicators-are-red-or-blue-states-better/

[8] "Jan 7, 2020 · Here, too, there’s a big divide between red and blue states: In blue-state major cities, the homeless population rose since 2011 while, in red states, major city homeless numbers dropped steadily."

URL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/07/difference-between-red-state-blue-state-homelessness/

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Where is your evidence that poverty is higher in blue states than red states?

[1] "Sep 5, 2019 · As a result, state variations in terms of poverty rates and poverty relief will deepen. In short, a person’s experience at the bottom of the economic ladder differs widely depending on where they live, and red state versus blue state policy differences are driving part of that geographic divergence."

URL: https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/holes-in-the-safety-net/difference-in-being-poor-in-red-states-versus-blue-states/FD63AB1051F7A904E5E0CA874B632FE9

[2] "Feb 21, 2020 · Three metrics flip from having stronger average performance among Republican-controlled states at the beginning of the timeframe to having stronger average performance among Democratic-controlled states by the end of the timeframe – Poverty Rate, No High School Diploma Rate, and Post-Secondary Education Rate (Bachelor’s Degree +)."

URL: https://gppreview.com/2020/02/21/growing-divide-red-states-vs-blue-states/

[3] "Apr 1, 2020 · A person’s experience at the bottom of the economic ladder differs widely depending on where they live, and red state versus blue state policy differences are driving part of that geographic divergence. Red states generally have more punitive public benefits policies than blue states."

URL: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3551489

[4] "In this oft touted economic metric, Democrats do vastly better than Republicans in 2019, winning each category and almost all with major wins. The purpose of this study isn’t to get into causal pathways, but I’ll nonetheless be sharing my own personal ideas on such and speculate on patterns. Feel free to do the same in the comments! The first thing... See full list on appliedsentience.com Again, as with almost all of the economic indicators, Blue states have an absolutely decisive victory over Red states in 2018 – with major wins in all 5 metrics! I should have added a “devastatingly better” title for indicators. First, I’d like to point out that, again, it looks like oil is responsible for the Red state outliers who’re above the US... See full list on appliedsentience.com Democrats definitely won this indicator, carrying 3 of 5 metrics, including the only major win, over Republicans in 2019. And while the liberal in me is content with the results, the researcher in me wishes the quality of the data and some technical aspects of its analysis were better. First, some points about analysis. Namely, there isn’t much dif... See full list on appliedsentience.com Like Median Income above, Democrats won another “crushing” victory over Republicans in 2018 since all five metrics were major wins. Once again, my Red Oil Theory holds. All of the leading Red states, except for Nebraska, are top 10 oil producers. In addition, it seems that welfare is doing the job predicted by Democrats and staving off poverty. Des... See full list on appliedsentience.com Similar to percent of all people in poverty above, Democrats have almost all majors wins across all 5 metrics compared to Republicans for 2018. Thank you Jesus (it appears) that the oil rich Red states of Utah and North Dakota have used their money to bail children out of poverty. However, Blue states, again, completely dominate this indicator. Thi... See full list on appliedsentience.com Like Unemployment, Democrats only do a bit better than Republicans on this metric in 2017. Republicans have a win and a tie, but Democrats still pull three wins, two of them major. I’d like to start by making it clear why education is included under economics: human capital theory. Some conservatives complain about education as if it’s part of some... See full list on appliedsentience.com With % of the population graduating college we’re back to a crystal clear win for Democrats over Republicans in 2017. First, this win is all the more stark when additional “hues” are taken into account. The bottom five Blue states are all (.5) states and Maine is the only “true blue” Democrat state, ie (1), to fall under the US average. Second, a l... See full list on appliedsentience.com Here we finally have a solid win for Republicans over Democrats in 2019, taking all 5 metric including two major wins! First, this win is even more impressive if you account for more nuance political affiliation since 60% of the top 5 Blue States are (.5)’s and there’s only one Red state below the US average. Additionally, only one Red state is bel... See full list on appliedsentience.com I’ve already spoken about quite a few different topics. But to recap and add a bit: Blue states clearly do better than Red states on Economic Indicators, except for homelessness. And to bolster this point, it appears like there’s decent evidence that most Red outliers that are doing well, economically-speaking, are doing well because of oil. Whethe... See full list on appliedsentience.com"

URL: https://appliedsentience.com/2020/07/30/economics-are-red-or-blue-states-better/

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Rick (equity muse) Botelho's avatar

Your quote "Blue States talk compassion but deliver confusion, violent cities and corrupt policies leading to poverty." For example, an analysis of FBI crime data in 2020, cross-referenced with political leanings, found that states leaning Republican had higher per capita violent crime rates compared to states leaning Democratic [1]. Another study focused on gun death rates and found higher rates in red states compared to blue states [2]. Please provide evidence to contradict this references.

1] "Jun 24, 2021 · YES. In 2020, nine of ten states with the highest per capita violent crime rates leaned Republican, while eight of ten states with the lowest rates leaned Democrat, according to a cross-analysis of the latest available FBI crime data with FiveThirtyEight's partisan lean index."

URL: https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/do-red-states-rank-higher-in-violent-crime-rates-than-blue-states

[2] "Apr 28, 2023 · Crucial Quote. “Despite the pervasive nature of gun violence, high rates of gun homicide in urban centers have been the sole focus of many policymakers and used as justification to loosen gun ..."

URL: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/

[3] "Apr 20, 2022 · Amid a spike in violence, murder was much more prevalent in red states than blue states."

URL: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3274797-we-have-a-murder-problem-in-america-especially-in-red-states/

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Your quote. "We were quite united as a country to give all individuals equal opportunities." Really? When was this? What evidence can you provide for that assertion? Both woke and unwoke are associated with identify politics. Do unwoke people care for their neighbors more than woke people? if so, share your evidence for this assertion. There are many philosophical and political influence that affected the development critical race theory. Marxism was one of those influences. Perhaps you can identify in critical race theory where Marxism is present. How does that relate to your giant leap to Gulags, the Bolshevik Revolution and the Chinese Cultural Revolution? This is the red reflex. Chat-GPT do not provide any evidence about hospitals being sold due to a refusal to be party to abortions. Share your evidence. Here is one reference that conservatives are more generous than liberal in chartable giving. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34429211/.

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Colleen Dick's avatar

The word "woke" is divisive. It is not a proper English word for how it is being used and so it is used for differing purposes by various groups of people. As much as people try to make it a virtuous term of fairness and goodness, others will point out that the actions of people who subscribe to the doctrine are just the opposite. In a world where language is becoming less precise every day, it is more and more difficult to discern meanings. People resort to watching actions instead of words. In many instances the "unwoke" are more exhibitory in compassion and decency than the "woke." Conservative peoples have traditionally been very involved in sharing resources with the needy. The farmers bring truckloads of needed commodities to areas of need. Churches often have outreach programs and soup-kitchens and other means of lifting people out of dire circumstances. The usual emphasis is to take care of neighbors and communities. When they are then accused of not caring about "fairness," they have no idea about what they are hearing. It seems not to apply to them at all. Then they hear that all of this "fairness" should be relegated to more and more centralized government, they are rightly concerned. Large governments are notoriously ineffective and inefficient. They have a tendency to generalize everything, and they limit decision-makers to small numbers of so called "experts" and we know how that goes. With decision-makers increasingly isolated from the on-the-ground experience and consequences the decisions become less intelligent and responsive, and less responsible. I think that the sister monument to the Statue of Liberty might actually be the Statue of Responsibility. I don't think that we can ever get to "fairness" by delegating our personal responsibility to care for our neighbors to impersonal governments. I have searched the Equity Muses site for the word "Responsibility" with very poor results. Only two hits. I would share the picture but this format won't allow it.

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Responsibility is explicit in the first simple rule of equity. Equity is shared and individual responsibilities to be fair and kind to everyone.

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Thanks for responding, Colleen. But who has made the word divisive? And why? And how are the "unwoke" are more exhibitory in compassion and decency than the "woke."? Please provide names of unwoke politicians who are more compassionate than woke ones?

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